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Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  legit nyck on Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:28 am

I would like and know what you think of the idea of not putting rules on using hacks in psobb Server pc and also on the server psoV2 pc
so the gms (the)
would be just helping the members with information but would not
more banning anyone what they think of the idea?


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Put it to a vote maybe?

Post  I Am CELL on Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:41 am

I suggest we put it to a vote, but part of me doesn't want to have to be a mod to a server with rampant hacking...  That would get old pretty fast.  I'd suggest we be more LENIENT on hackers, but obviously an excessive amount would not be acceptable.

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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  legit nyck on Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:18 pm

I Am CELL wrote:I suggest we put it to a vote, but part of me doesn't want to have to be a mod to a server with rampant hacking...  That would get old pretty fast.  I'd suggest we be more LENIENT on hackers, but obviously an excessive amount would not be acceptable.
I agree with you poll actived
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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  Aurelli on Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:39 pm

I think there should be SOME rules, more than just the obvious "no harming other players in any way."

People who want to play legit should still be able to without having people randomly join their games with God of Equip and other disruptive hacks running rampant at the very least.

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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  I Am CELL on Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:25 pm

Aurelli wrote:I think there should be SOME rules, more than just the obvious "no harming other players in any way."

People who want to play legit should still be able to without having people randomly join their games with God of Equip and other disruptive hacks running rampant at the very least.
Yeah i completely agree, that'd be probably the best way to maintain higher number of people without cutting out people from either group (legit or hacking)

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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  ryara on Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:18 pm

no hacks Armand 
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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  cacau on Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:53 am

votei não também
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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  K_I_R_E_E_K on Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:29 pm

On sylverant the idea is simplye, if it can't be detected, then it's allowed, with that in mind certain things were allowed such as altered item, enemy, and char stats.

Players then decided to follow bluecrab sugestions, to either lock games or leave.

In order to create an enviroment that makes players feel confortable, knowing that they are encouraged to report any incident is to make hacks not allowed, but make a command such as /legit to identify such game, or make it legit only, because if we look closely, when it comes to cheating, there are many places already, the option to cheat won't bring anything new.
Beeing able to cheat anywhere isn't a feature.

We can deal with rare problems such as a player that is cheating but we can't prove, but 1st cheating and hacking in general must be discouraged, so that these problems appear rarely, having a /legit game and then allow players with altered drop rates to be the host is simply a slap on the face.

If a "switch" for legit gameplay is done, make it visible from the game selection when you are in the lobby, green and red colors work well.

A yes or no question is hard, i'm leaning towards no, simply because i can do the unallowed stuff elsewhere.


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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  I Am CELL on Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:35 pm

K_I_R_E_E_K wrote:On sylverant the idea is simply, if it can't be detected, then it's allowed, with that in mind certain things were allowed such as altered item, enemy, and char stats.

Players then decided to follow bluecrab sugestions, to either lock games or leave.

In order to create an enviroment that makes players feel confortable, knowing that they are encouraged to report any incident is to make hacks not allowed, but make a command such as /legit to identify such game, or make it legit only, because if we look closely, when it comes to cheating, there are many places already, the option to cheat won't bring anything new.
Beeing able to cheat anywhere isn't a feature.

We can deal with rare problems such as a player that is cheating but we can't prove, but 1st cheating and hacking in general must be discouraged, so that these problems appear rarely, having a /legit game and then allow players with altered drop rates to be the host is simply a slap on the face.

If a "switch" for legit gameplay is done, make it visible from the game selection when you are in the lobby, green and red colors work well.

A yes or no question is hard, i'm leaning towards no, simply because i can do the unallowed stuff elsewhere.
Well when you put it like that, then yes I would completely support your position. It's very difficult to see too far into the future when it comes to things like this, and I suppose i wouldn't want to have to moderate things that you've mentioned. But when you think of the player base, I sure would like to see a constant flow of players being on the server here! Whether or not they are cheating, as long as they aren't griefing, i suppose i could let it slide by me. If they are just out to have fun and aren't really being detrimental to other players or the server is a whole other story than what we've talked about. But like i said, i do support your position so long as we leave alone players that are only out to have some non-detrimental fun

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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  legit nyck on Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:14 pm

ok friends sheltered by respond
I never supported the use of hacks Anyway I did this poll to try to be a little
Democratic....now I'm going to enforce the rule of not using hack
at least in psobb in psopc
I'm going to be genuine will not enforce this rule using the hack will be free
even at the official sega Server many wore hacks
and it was impossible to prevent all players Therefore
PSOBB LGT (use strictly prohibited gack risk of Imminent ban)
PSOV2 (use of hack free)

one rule on psov2

No use never the Evil Curst in a room with other players  Razz 
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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  Captain N on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:14 am

I suppose there could be a separate ships just for players that want to use hacks.
the ship would have separate characters from the legit ships. Let Player copy his/her characters to the hack only ship but not copy them to the legit ship.
this way all the players that want to hack have a place to themselves.

this will also depend on how your server software is setup. Players might have to create a new account for the hack ship.
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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  K_I_R_E_E_K on Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:20 pm

That is a good idea.

Keep in mind and from my own experience, players that hack or cheat will most likely want to mingle with the normal players.
That suggestion is pretty nice, it's far less troublesome then to enter and set up commands to inform the players in the lobby what type of game you are in, if you arer in the ship then you are already protected by it's rules.
I like that.

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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  legit nyck on Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:19 pm

I also liked the idea but how would create accounts?
I use the software scht psov2  Crying or Very sad 
I thought of using fuzziqer but it is very complicated  Sad  and the sylverant
I don't put a server there ever
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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  PlywoodStick on Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:49 pm

This is probably way too late for me to contribute, but I voted no hacks as well. I wonder, though, do reskins and graphics patches count as hacking, or do just gameplay related tools count as hacking?

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Re: Legits Whit L33 no rules on psobb and on psoV2 idea

Post  K_I_R_E_E_K on Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:56 pm

Cosmetics don't alter gameplay mechanics (99% of them atleast)

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